Thread: Using an overbet to induce a call

Originally Posted by msuduster

Often times a flop overbet makes it look like you're bluffing, either with air or some kind of draw. Do you ever overbet on the flop out of position with a strong hand like 2 pair or a set?

I have thrown out a few overbets wit a big hand and if i dont get called i show them to set up my overbet bluff later on LOL, just dont use that info against me when we are at the same table MSU just forget that i even said that lol.

Originally Posted by msuduster

When you're OOP I guess it really just depends on the opponent you'd be betting into. Are they aggressive and capable of shoving over the top with a bluff-raise, or are they a passive player who will just fold out.

However I think a flop overbet to induce a call can pretty effective against all types of players, it's just a matter of getting them to read that bet as a semi-bluff of some type thus making a call the "correct" move.

Yea i agree, so do u ever overbet on the flop?

This works against weak players, a good player do not call with out odds.

Originally Posted by ahcrata

This works against weak players, a good player do not call with out odds.

Actually i have seen sum of the best players in the world make calls in this situation and not have nuthin but ace high.

Originally Posted by msuduster

Against a thinking player this would be all about meta-game / leveling. At the stakes I play (small) it might be just fancy play syndrome. However I do admit to calling pot sized or over bets on the flop because it looks so much like a bluff. Against players who I know are regulars, and I know have seen me, I probably over think it.

Yes i have been guilty of callin them 2, especially against certain players and a few times i have paid dearly for it cuz they actually ha a big hand but i have also been rewarded big pots off of it cuz they had nuthin but an overcard or 2 overcards.

Originally Posted by msuduster

I have overbet flops, but probably too much to make it profitable.

I'm starting to think using a standard c-bet is just as effective and probably more likely to be called than an overbet right. So if a villain will only call an overbet 10-25% of the time, but standard c-bets 50-75% of the time, it's more profitable to get more calls with a bet more likely to be called.

I don't have any hard stats to match the theory but it's interesting nonetheless.

I think if you use an overbet against a thinking player a small percent of the time you'll find it has increased effectiveness.

So have u dont it more in cash games or freerolls? i see it bein done alot more in freerolls cuz the damage is not as bad as if they do it in a cash game.